Howdy dungeoneers! Tell me.

17 thoughts on “Howdy dungeoneers! Tell me.”

1. Hmm, wouldn’t be too hard to stick the Fallen Empires combat rules into DW, but then you lose the effect of having a decent Con.

2. AW does it nicely, just use that

3. There are some good ideas here: http://www.story-games.com/forums/discussion/19273/a-descriptive-damage-hack-for-dungeon-world-world-of-dungeons

4. There are a couple of other threads where you can mine ideas:

   https://plus.google.com/113692337653837882568/posts/fM6f7UWna1z

   https://plus.google.com/115124358479252657800/posts/7euN4ddWiWK

   https://plus.google.com/107200488853215420475/posts/UCNt8M5uE4p

   https://plus.google.com/+MikeWice/posts/ezLUof5v4pc

5. In our Cowboy World hack we needed to get away from HP since even a stray bullet should potentially kill you dead.

   When you take harm , roll + Body + modifier.

   Modifiers:

   Knife: +2

   Revolver: +1

   Shotgun, explosion: +0

   Etc.

   On 10+, it is but a bruise or a scratch

   On 7-9, you are wounded. Describe your wound and take -1 to all Body rolls.(-1’s stack)

   On a fail you are disabled. You are mortally wounded and will probably die.

   This is the basic idea, it is a bit more involved in practice. It works fantastic for the Cowboy genre.

   When we ported the system to Star Wars, we realised that we needed to make combat last longer for a more cinematic feel, so we added armor points, you pay one point to negate one hit after damage is rolled. Again it works well.

   For me there has always been a disconnect between hitpoints and the fiction. In our 5th Ed game the other night I attacked another PC and did some damage. The other player just shrugged – it was only numbers that would change after a short rest. Which illustrates why I always hated HP since we played Basic DnD in the early 80’s.

6. Wynand Louw wow I like that a lot, because it makes it really swingy. I like swingy stakes.

7. This may be the same as what Robert Finamore posted but I’m rather fond of: http://www.story-games.com/forums/discussion/17665/apocalypse-world-a-more-descriptive-visceral-approach-to-harm

   Especially the rolling with armour. For DW, I think what you’d need to do is make each point of armour a negative modifier to Dex. So if you had a PC with +2 Dex and 1 armour, they’d roll +1 on Dex rolls. A less harsh version would be a negative to their score instead of their mod (with the relevant change to their modifier)

8. I like Fate conditions. Shouldn’t be too hard to implement something alike that wouldn’t render Con useless.

9. Aaron Griffin I don’t think it is that swingy, since the players know the odds before they draw their guns. In general you have to fail three rolls in a row to die: Shoot, Harm and Healing. We’ve played this system for two years or more now and we had quite a few people disabled in combat but only one or two deaths.

10. Start tinkering with HP and damage, and you’re tinkering near the core of the game. Pretty quickly, you’re adjusting basic moves, class moves, spells, gear, monster stats… pretty much all the subsystems are affected. I’m not saying “don’t,” just be aware of how much work your hack will actually require.

    If you’re interested, here’s my PbtA fantasy heartbreaker. I’m pretty fond of the damage system, though it’s had very little play testing.

    https://goo.gl/RX5tfd

11. Jeremy Strandberg​ Why heartbreaker?

12. Ari Black why the name? It’s just a reference to “fantasy hearbreaker,” that type of self-made “it’s like D&D except…” RPG. If I ever do anything more serious with the game, I’ll probably come up with a legit name.

13. Jeremy Strandberg Ah, I’ve always associated that name with homebrews that never succeed and leave the maker sore about it. I’ve had six or seven experiments in system design and each one of them has had its pros and cons and each one has taught me amazing things. My most recent experiment was what lead me to DW and PbtA games 🙂

    I’m going to read your files there as I’m on a similar road at the moment.

14. Volsung 2d6plusCool The wounds system in uncharted worlds is so good I’ve considered changing up dungeon world rules for it. Wounds are based on severity, and can be really interesting and very present in the fiction. Your wound could be a dozen cracked wounds or a wicked slash across your torso.

15. Harrison s You got my attention. Could you explain a bit how the wound system works in Uncharted Worlds? Like, a bit of the mechanics behind it?

16. Addramyr Palinor Sure. Here’s a little excerpt from the pdf.

    “Whenever a character suffers physical trauma, the player writes a short (one- or twoword) description of the injury of that severity on their character sheet. The severities are minor, major, severe, critical and fatal. Injuries are descriptive, not a number. While a plasma beam and vehicle collision might cause harm of the same severity, the actual injury will be very different; burned flesh vs broken bones, in this case.

    Injuries have five increasing levels of severity: minor, major, severe, critical and fatal.

    When assigning an injury, the GM will state the severity based on the source of the harm.

    The GM is free to assign less severe (glancing) harm as a consequence/cost of a partially

    successful Move, reserving the full force for a failure.

    Guidelines for assigning injury severity:

    • Minor: Brawling, short falls, day-to-day bashes and cuts.

    • Major: Melee weapons, falling objects, flames.

    • Severe: Firearms, long falls, collisions.

    • Critical: Heavy weapons, explosives.

    • Fatal: Ship weaponry, artillery.”

17. Cool. It might be easy to use this in DW without needing to change all the damage system by assigning a numbner to each severity and do as in Fate where, for e.g. you receive a 7 dmg hit, you need to take a severe consequence + a minor one

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